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IBM Took a Man’s Voice, Pitting Him Against His Own Work, While Companies Profit from Low-Effort Garbage Generated by Bots and “Self-Service”.

IBM Took a Man’s Voice, Pitting Him Against His Own Work, While Companies Profit from Low-Effort Garbage Generated by Bots and “Self-Service”.

The New York Times finally posted something [paywall] worth stopping and considering.

In 2003, a man named Greg Marston did some voice work for IBM.

He signed a contract “figuring they would be on the up and up”, and then 20 years later, they took his voice and used it to make “Connor”, a digital clone of his voice, as a product that they could sell, without paying Mr. Marston anything.

He came across “Connor” when he was watching Wimbledon (brought to you by IBM), and heard himself as the announcer. He was not amused.

He and his attorney are said to be “in contact” with IBM, and he says he knows that he has lost work due to this “digital clone” of his voice which was made without his consent.

The question to ponder here, is whether the practice should be legal at all.

If we assume that all a company like IBM has to do is arrange for ongoing royalties, then eventually they won’t need any voice actors.

Without any need for new voice actors, a job disappears. Eventually, the ones that agreed to the contracts will die and the royalties will go to their heirs, which never did any work at all.

Another part of the article that I enjoyed, is that apparently, now there is a Web site (or maybe an app?) called Boomy which lets people crank out a bunch of low effort music, perhaps too nice of a word, let’s say “content”. They like “content”.

They’re always looking to fill up “streaming” with “content” now, and it doesn’t matter if it’s any good or not. If it costs basically nothing to make and you can get some people to stream it, hey, it’s a big world and you’ll make some money.

Of course, this leads people to copy and paste this crap into Spotify, which I’ve read tries to prune some out, but only if they prove that other bots are “listening” to it (streaming it for just barely long enough to get “royalties”.

So, the “Dead Internet Theory” is continuing to prove itself.

You have a bunch of “Chaff Bots” making garbage for other bots to “stream” over and over again until Spotify realizes what’s happening and boots the “content” off, but there’s so many ways to game this system, right?

It’s basically just a high bandwidth version of, “have curl grab your Epinions articles on a loop as the pennies pile up”.

Spotify is very much a DotCom Era 2.0 product. How much Internet bandwidth is this using?

The music “industry” has hit rock bottom. There is literally no effort anymore. I actually listened to one of these “AI” tracks called “Heart on my Sleeve”, I think, last night, and it was so bad that I turned it off.

I mean, it wasn’t discernible from other “mumble rap assclowns” I guess, so they’ll lose their jobs first. You’ve gotta start somewhere.

The vegetables who create this “content” will lose their jobs and the vegetables who listen to it will keep clicking, along with the bots.

I’m glad that there was a lot of good music for hundreds of years before it stopped, all at once.

My spouse wonders why I listen to, almost exclusively, music from the 1950s through about 2000, and I guess he just doesn’t get the whole “golden era” thing. You know?

Everything had a “golden era”, and for animation, in the US, that was like when my grandparents were alive and in their 20s or 30s, and again in the 90s.

Movies? Used to go twice a week. Now we go twice a year.

They had to haul Hayao Miyazaki out of retirement to make one more to have something fit to go to the movie theater over.

Nobody will easily replace Hayao Miyazaki, or at least not a robot designed to run a “content farm”, which is what Netflix and Spotify have been for a while, but even those get worse.

As long as people keep “subscribing”, nobody at the company cares if the “content” is good. A while back, Netflix laid waste to their animators and said that there will be “robots” for this now too. It’s a very “corporate” product.

They have “algorithms” to read the audience and what they respond to, then they go back and have robots to draft scrips to show the audience things they liked before, over and over, and then yet more robots to animate it.

I am pretty sure that Japan will not go this route with its animation industry for a long time, if ever.

The movie theaters are dying.

Marcus Cinemas has switched to anime and sporting events because they can’t draw in ticket sales with Hollywood crap anymore. The writers may be on strike. Who cares?

Anime and sporting events are how you get people in who don’t want to see all this junk from Hollywood. Nobody wants to see that. The theaters know it. They built all these multi-plex cinemas they can’t fill (look at that graph) and now they need to find people who have money in their pockets.

The reason anime is taking over the theaters in the US is because the United States is a culture that is in terminal decline and cannot compete on quality.

The society in the United States accepts, all sorts of garbage. Not just culturally, but it’s depraved in almost every sense of the word. Criminality is tolerated. People openly flaunting their corruption. The country is finished. Tent cities? The politicians made everyone so selfish and jaded and high on themselves that nobody cares until it’s them.

Anyway, the movie theaters don’t even charge for tickets for the sports. Sports fans are the other demographic with money to spend. You go in there and they hope you buy twenty dollar popcorn, ten dollar Pepsi, and seven dollar hotdogs.

Worth a shot, for the theater owner. There are people who don’t want to burn to death in the sun watching a game. Have you ever tried to go see the Cubs at Wrigley Field? I’ve lived close enough for years and it’s absolute madness trying to get in there, and out.

That’s if you can get tickets. They have robots that buy all the tickets at the list price, naturally, and then they can sell them much much higher.

Nice big movie theater screen. Just pay for expensive snacks, which you’re going to do at the stadium.

Some say that a culture in decline excessively values entertainment.

Entertainment is always valued. When a culture is in decline, it will accept lower and lower standards of entertainment because the entertainment is a reflection of the culture.

I suppose the tl;dr version of this article is a depressing “shower thought”.

There’s never been more people in the world than there are now, and there’s never been less creativity in it.

We’re finally at the “Give up on life.” chapter of the species.

There’s really not a lot left to do on the Web.

The companies have turned it into a sky high garbage dump with bots, walled gardens, and DRM.

Every year, the legal landscape in the US gets worse as well, and then we export it through trade deals. They think that threatening everyone who is utterly broke will make them suddenly want this garbage they’re producing.

I refuse to participate in this race to the bottom with garbage written by robots, designed to be “consumed” by idiots.

I have the privilege of knowing what’s going on, and if we don’t ever get good original works out of the American entertainment industry again, well, it was nice while it lasted, but there will always be voice acting to dub over foreign stuff, or at least subtitles.

Ironically, the resistance to the “bot garbage” is coming from the US copyright and patent offices, which are normally the enemies of Freedom.

Which normally issue all sorts of bogus horseshit that people in the Free Software world are threatened by simply due to being less moneyed than the people who get the patents and copyrights.

Even the purveyors of this bot-generated smut and garbage are hitting a wall with the authorities because the law pretty clearly states that only a human being can “create” a work.

So, we can expect the purveyors of garbage to use the money they are obtaining by the imbeciles consuming crap to lobby to extend the laws to apply to low effort “content” generated by bots.

Whether they succeed or not is, at this point, unknowable, however it would be the worst thing to happen since the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

One reason the music labels and Apple stopped “selling” music files that were yours to keep and pushed Apple Music is that eventually everyone who wants a copy of music, from when it was good, has one, and this market ultimately becomes self-limiting.

If you pay Apple $13 a month plus tax to keep listening to 70s/80s bands (80 cents per CD when bought 7 at a time at the thrift store), then you never own it, and the market is not self-limiting.

Meanwhile, your kids can listen to trash generated by robots.

If the United States public schools were interested in giving children educations befitting a human being instead of a head full of mush, we may never have reached this point. Every time we let rich billionaires “reform” the schools, the next generation comes out worse.

McDonalds doesn’t want to pay people to take orders.

So they have a “robot” to take your order now. A kiosk, which runs Windows, apparently.

This one has been broken for a few visits now. Apparently, Windows can’t handle “showing pictures of hamburgers for people to tap on”. Big surprise.

McDonalds punishes people who go to a register. You can’t use a coupon. You need the app or the kiosk for that. If you go to a human, they punish you with a 20% surcharge.

They portray this differently. They turn it around on you. If you use the app or the kiosk you get a 20% off coupon or occasionally a “free hamburger”.

It actually works out to what the price used to be before they fired people and forced you to do the unpaid work of navigating through an app or a kiosk to do the unpaid menial job of telling someone what you would like to eat and paying, and then sitting down.

Other companies, like Walmart, did these a long time ago. The customer gets no discount and has to do physical labor that a cashier used to be paid for.

The company is now finding out that shoplifting has gone through the roof due to self-checkout fraud. Some of it isn’t fraud, some is that the user didn’t scan something right and could be arrested anyway on the way out the door.

Richard Stallman has an easy solution to the “self-checkout” problem. He said when he goes to the grocery store he walks past them and mentions that people are doing free labor and taking a paying job away from someone.

The McDonalds/Walmart GULAG. One more way people are getting screwed with robots.

There are so many examples of how companies are using this stuff to offload work onto others and not paying them, that the only real value of all of this technology is stolen labor and unjust profits. We should reject the bots. Especially in the case of the supermarkets.

When I go to Jewel-Osco and check out, I have my digital coupons loaded and they work at a cashier register when I enter my “loyalty” number. I’m not wild about this. You used to just go in and get the sale price.

But it’s better than going to “self-check” and busting your ass bagging $300 worth of food while the thing goes “bonk bonk bonk please wait for assistance unexpected item in bagging area bonk bonk bonk”, and of course everyone else got that too so wait in line for your chance to pay after the other dozen people who got jammed up just trying to remove full bags when they ran out of room on the scale.

How long does it take me to bag and pay for these groceries?

Even at minimum wage, I would have made about $2-3.

If everyone in town uses them, this replaces at least two dozen full time jobs per store.

Instead, we have homeless, jobless, people living in tents.

YouTube, Reddit, and Other Nasty Sites Sabotage LibRedirect. “Small Web” Stuff. Real Communities Don’t Need “Managers”.

YouTube, Reddit, and Other Nasty Sites Sabotage LibRedirect.

YouTube, Reddit, and other sites that have an unofficial privacy respecting/Small Web front-end are starting to get wise to this and “rate limit” their API or are making changes to it and sending scary letters from their lawyers.

They’re terrified, paranoid, that they’re missing “ad impressions” and opportunities to track the users.

Reddit sets 15 year tracking cookies on your computer so even if you never make an account, they can keep a list of things you look at, even if you change networks.

Google YouTube is putting ads all over “content” that they didn’t even produce, and sometimes “demonetizes the channel”, but still puts ads in someone else’s videos anyway and pockets their money. It’s like being beaten up and having your money stolen by the playground bully, and then the school staff (or the government regulators in the case of Google) sides with them.

If that’s not bad enough, sometimes the whole damn video is just some “Influencer” trying to sell you some dumb product. Sometimes it’s not even obvious who pays them to say what. So YouTube is of extremely limited use.

The RIAA is terrified of YouTube rippers (and so is Google), but music has basically been free since (the original) Napster anyway. They try to “monetize” songs my parents listened to (and obfuscate how to get at them) because nobody has put any serious effort into music since the mid-2000s on the major labels.

They’re obviously getting wise to the fact that people hate them.

Right now, I just deal with it the best ways I can. The Gecko (Firefox-type browsers, such as LibreWolf and SeaMonkey) have always had far more powerful APIs for Web Garbage blockers, like NoScript and ublock-origin. So that can often handle the mountain of bullshit on YouTube even when I’m on the main site.

Sometimes I go to DuckDuckGo just to search for videos. Playing YouTube videos there works better than on the YouTube site. Even though DuckDuckGo tracks people and I typically use Searx.be as my search engine, DuckDuckGo hasn’t ruined their Web site code to be so awful it barely runs at all. Like Google has.

So I’ve unfortunately been having to use Old Reddit Redirect and use redirects in LibRedirect less often. Google in particular is trying to figure out where all the holes are and plug them so that nobody can escape the aggravation.

Since far fewer users even know what Gopher and Gemini are, the News sites haven’t bothered to even look into blocking it. Sometimes Bypass Paywalls works in LibreWolf. Sometimes it doesn’t. Normally, the experience of reading news and weather in text is better anyway.

Likewise, gopher://gopherddit.com in Lagrange lets me read text on Reddit without being tracked. If I click through to a Reddit link it goes either straight to a image file itself in LibreWolf or at least to an old.reddit.com (via the extension) site, and I haven’t set up an exemption for them to be allowed to set cookies, and I’ve only whitelisted four specific domains that could possibly load JavaScript when I end up there.

Matthew Garrett was dismissing Small Web stuff before his behavior got to be so unacceptable that he became the only user in nearly 20 years of Techrights that had to be muted. He told me it was basically worthless because Gemini and Reddit don’t have things like forms you can post with, like browsers do.

But I actually found this cool site called Gemlog.blue that lets you post to a Gemini Pod from a Web form, which doesn’t even need active content.

With minimal code changes we could have simple Web forums that allow people to read and lurk over Gemini where nobody will track them and they can read the content with plaintext and nothing else, and if they want to post something, they can use any browser (even SeaMonkey) with JavaScript turned off. Those have forms.

Many people don’t really care whether it’s the Web or not, what bothers people like me about the Web is it’s very bloated and annoying, and the corporations and their pet governments have gone “full shithole” mode lately, putting all kinds of nasty stuff in it.

With Gemini sites, you don’t have to use CA certificates and put someone you don’t trust, can’t trust, and got trusted FOR you in your “root of trust”.

One of Mr. Garrett’s friends misunderstood why Techrights on the Web has a self-signed certificate.

Many browsers see this and basically alarm the user with scary language. But what is a self-signed certificate?

It’s basically just what it says. There’s no “Certificate Authority” involved, like “Let’s Encrypt” which is a plot to make it easier for Web browsers to demand encryption, which is not something that all users or even every site actually needs.

Techrights isn’t a bank. It isn’t an online shopping site. You don’t actually need to know that like, “Okay, this is really Discover Bank, or this is really Walmart.”

You can read over HTTP or HTTPS with a self-signed certificate. Really all you need to do is either accept the warning or mute it by adding the certificate so it won’t prompt you again. There’s nothing really “broken” about this setup. Most sites weren’t encrypted 10-15 years ago and we were fine.

Basically the only reason I ever forced HTTPS in a Web browser was because of Comcast, which at one point started hijacking Web pages in transit to (I’m sure spy, but also..) inject their own messages into the page.

This broke pages and was very annoying, and with HTTPS Everywhere in EASE Mode, they couldn’t do it!

As to that behavior, there ought to be a law against it. But HTTPS forced on was the only way I could make them knock it off. I also changed my DNS servers because they were NXDOMAIN hijacking invalid Web addresses to their own search page full of ads instead of saying the site didn’t exist. Super shitty company.

Fundamentally though, everyone should be using a VPN. The things your ISP can do are amazingly even creepier. There’s some like Mullvad that seem to be decent.

I think that a lot of people in his circle, starting at the top, don’t really “do” security, or even understand what it is. Again, not every site needs HTTPS and if there were laws against crummy monopolist ISPs hijacking your Web pages to insert poop and spy on you, rather than ones requiring it then I think we could get rid of most of this HTTPS nonsense and just be happy again.

There’s only a few Web sites that Netscape Navigator on my computer (I keep it around to LOL and look at Gopher mostly, sometimes, although Lagrange is better.) can look at anymore. It can view Roy’s site because he doesn’t demand HTTPS, and that’s part of what keeps it so broadly compatible, and it has simple layout that doesn’t force tens of megabytes of garbage styling and scripts just to read text.

It’s not Modern. Who cares? It’s not encrypted (or you can accept the self-signed cert). Who cares? There’s no security “angle” here.

Communities do not need to be “managed”.

Our latest discussion turned to “Community Managers” and it reminded me that Jono Bacon used to do this for Canonical, and he used to come to Techrights like many Corporate types did, to “keep an eye on us”. Managers like to know if articles are coming and what they’re likely to say.

The “Community Manager” is now working for clients like Deutche Bank, AirBNB, Microsoft, Intel, and Trend Micro.

Somehow I doubt they want to hear performances of the Metal Free Software Song.

Anyway, Chris Pirillo came up too. Seems Intel (intHELL) hired him to do damage control in 2019, I mean “Community Management”, possibly due to the failed products and chip bugs. They lay off thousands while people try to make their old PC run forever due to the dead economy with hyperinflation, I mean Biden’s Economic Miracle.

(Try Linux! You’ll like it better!)

You’re Sirius? How is SiriusXM still in business?

When I had the 2008 Buick in the shop the other day they gave me a free 90 day trial of SiriusXM that you don’t need to worry about forgetting to cancel because it just requires a radio ID and then refreshing your radio.

So I’ve been listening in the car, and the programming isn’t bad. It doesn’t have those annoying commercials you get on FM. The station usually comes in clearly unless you go under a bridge for a moment.

So that’s all good.

What’s bad is that the price is very extravagant and I already have almost all of these songs that play on their 70s, 80s, and 90s, New Wave, Nu Metal, and even the Frank Sinatra and Classic Rock channels.

Almost everything that’s any good was already done years ago and eventually you just have it all. I’ve been at work crunching my CDs down into 128k Opus files for the phone so I can listen to them in the car over Bluetooth.

Mom was surprised when I told her what SiriusXM costs. If you want “app plus car” it’s not unusual to see packages that go north of $250 a year, which is just impossible to justify.

They operate like a cable company in almost every sense of the word. They force the people who just want to listen to music to prop up the expensive news and talk radio and sports channels. In many cases, those cost a lot due to licenses from the major league sports associations and multi-million dollar contracts with “personalities” like Howard Stern. Who is still alive somehow and which people pay to listen to, I suppose.

And SiriusXM is losing money again. Before the 2008 Recession, Sirius and XM almost collapsed and convinced the FCC to allow a merger to let them continue as one company that would hopefully remain solvent.

From what I could gather, SiriusXM also operates like cable in another way. Every time you are about to go to full price, call and complain that it will be too expensive and you almost always get 50% off for another year. If not, I’m told you cancel and SiriusXM calls you back in like 3-4 days and offers you a deal for like $60 for another year.

What a pain in the ass. And a lot of this money is also no doubt to pay incentives to car manufacturers to include their receivers and to pay car repair shops for every customer they “convert” to pay status. So the whole thing is like vacuum machine salesmen.

I can’t tell who is paying this or why you’d put up with it. Maybe if you’re an over-the-road trucker that’s just, like, on the road for 8-12+ hours a day and need something to entertain you. But most people are not on the road enough to benefit from the “car” part of the subscription.

SiriusXM has a $4,99 a month music showcase plan, which isn’t obscene, but then you need a smartphone and data to run it. You can pipe it into your car over Bluetooth if you don’t mind the load it puts on your phone and maybe spotty connection and consequences for using data like that from your carrier. And the whole thing is rather stupid, because they have satellites in geostationary orbit that are transmitting and cover all of North America (or at least the majority of it) that they just won’t let you use with music showcase.

I guess I just don’t understand the model or something. It seems very legacy to me.

In ways that are still impressing me, GM built the Buick better than the Impala in almost every way, and it has a killer sound system, which is an oddity for being like that from the factory, but I doubt I’ll renew SiriusXM.